I have said that President Obama is going down in history as one of our great presidents.
One of the primary reasons I believe this is because when he signed the Affordable Care Act, or as his detractors would have it, "ObamaCare", he at long last guaranteed that health care in this country is a right and not a privilege. It will be viewed as a pivotal moment in our country's history.
(Of course President Obama got a whole lot of help from the toughest politician in Washington - our own Nancy Pelosi. But I digress.)
No matter how loud the Republicans and their trainers in the Tea Party scream bloody murder, the country will never go back to the pre-Obama system of administering health care.
While the Affordable Care Act fell far short of what I wanted, it is a major first step in making health care accessible to all Americans.
(Just for the record, I wanted the bill to include what was referred to as the public option. That would have really loosened the grip that the health insurance industry has around Americans wallets. )
As this is a blog, I won't expound on my opinion much beyond saying that President Obama has changed the way Americans are going to think about their right to health care forever, and the funny thing about it is that a large portion of them don't even realize it yet.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
9:16 pm on Friday, May 20, 2011
Thank heavens we have at least one citizen (Sean) who realizes and truly appreciates how blessed we all are to have Mr. Obama taking "good care of our future." Those bad, bad Tea Party folks just don't understand a good thing when they see "it"..... or shall we say, become victims of "it." As the old saying goes "....and this too shall pass..." -perhaps, but I perceive that the pain will linger for a long, long time.
Sean Tully
9:50 pm on Friday, May 20, 2011
Ha! Good jab, Lorna. I want to hear the Tea Partiers explain to Americans where they will begin repealing the Affordable Care Act. Will they begin with allowing insurance companies to deny health care benefits due to pre-existing conditions? Maybe they can start with doing in the ability of Americans to take their health care coverage from job to job? I can't wait to hear. I am sure they will end up where Paul Ryan did with his case against Medicare.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
1:09 am on Saturday, May 21, 2011
Sean - there is something I really, really would like your opinion on only because I personally perceive it to be a BIG RED FLAG!! And that is OBAMA CARE WAIVERS - honey child. Who gets um and who doesn't? And, above all - what is/are criteria for waivers? The Worker Bees want to know!!!
As Ms. Pelosi mentioned at one point in her term something like: "....we gotta pass it so you will know what is in it..." Love it, love it, love it. Maybe it is in the "drinking water" - ya think??? Perhaps the drinking water numbs the tongue and throat to help get the Pelosi medicine down. One thing is for sure - apparently Ms. Pelosi (one of your favorite politicos) can claim, many, many waivers given to her constituents. Based on what? We The Worker Bees want to know!!! Doesn't it ring some sort of questionable bell for you?
Sean Tully
10:42 am on Saturday, May 21, 2011
Ah, the waivers. The newest GOP talking point. To be honest, I had not heard the low grumble from the right about waivers. But here is a good article on the subject:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/health/policy/20health.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
It seems the waivers are designed to prevent some health care plans from having to raise their premiums drastically in order to meet the high standards the bill calls for. According to the article small businesses such as Waffle House and Ruby Tuesdays have received waivers. That should be considered good by the GOP. And, yes, some union plans got waivers too. So did some states (Maine is cited in the article).
I don't think there is any hidden agenda with the waivers. They are applied to help correct some problems the bill may create in special circumstances. Did I say this bill was perfect? No. I said it was a major first step. It is.
As far as Nancy is concerned, I think her statement was taken out of context. I believe what she meant when she said we'll have to wait for the bill to pass before we know what is in it was sort of like saying what I wrote in my last paragraph in this blog - that most Americans don't even realize how this bill is going to change their lives for the better. They will understand once the benefits kick in and once the GOP tries to take those benefits away.
Leigh
9:56 am on Saturday, May 21, 2011
I remain skeptical of anything the government decides it doesn't have to participate in - why should the President and Congress be exempt from that which is good enough for their subjects?
Sean Tully
10:45 am on Saturday, May 21, 2011
Leigh, what this bill is doing is making the health care benefits the President and Congress get the standard for all Americans. The President and Congress get to choose from a variety of health plans. That is what Americans will now be offered.
Bruce Goldfarb
9:52 am on Sunday, May 22, 2011
Leigh, Congress and the other branches of government are immune to almost all the laws they pass. Equal employment opportunity laws, the Americans with Disabilities Act, etc. don't apply to Congress, the President or the Supreme Court. Is your outrage selective, or due to an unfamiliarity with how federal laws work?
Lorna D. Rudnikas
2:57 pm on Saturday, May 21, 2011
Lord Have Mercy Sean - I think there is no way this country could afford for every citizen the health care benefits the President and Congress gets. If, in fact, that were the goal of this Obama Care package - we are in even bigger financial trouble in the future than originally thought. But, I sense this is not the case. In fact, if the opposite were true - i.e. the President and Congress get the standard provided by the Obama Bill even for the average tax paying citizen - now that would be a "hoot" --- ehhhh - don't worry my darlings - it will never, ever happen if they have anything to do about it. Well - could be though--but then waivers would be used by the whole crew! :)
Sean Tully
12:26 pm on Sunday, May 22, 2011
Lorna, there are two responses to your question of how can this country afford for every citizen the health care benefits President and Congress gets:
1. This country is already paying for it. Who do you think pays for the emergecy room visits by the uninsured?
2. This country is already paying for it. Many companies provide health care plans for their employees. The company and employees pay for the health care coverage. This will not change under the Affordable Care Act.
The real question is should employers have to be responsible for providing health care plans to employees? I think not. I think health care should be nationalized and I do mean just like in Canada and the U.K. But this country decided long ago that health care should be provided by the private sector. Who started this trend anyway? It was the darling of the right, Ronald Reagan.
Had we listened to Richard Nixon or the GOP during the Clinton administration, we'd have the Affordable Care Act already in place, since, essentially, they both proposed the similar plans.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
3:09 pm on Saturday, May 21, 2011
Regarding your "waivers" response and the Nancy Pelosi statement.... Oh, good grief Sean - Nancy Pelosi mean't exactly what she said - there was no taking anything out of so-called context. She said it, everybody listened to it and took it for what it was - sadly laughable!!! Waivers - special circumstances - waivers = I suspect so much hogwash! With the accolades you have bestowed upon President Obama and ex-Speaker Pelosi, I am absolutely "shocked" :) that your statement: "...I don't think there is any hidden agenda with the waivers.." and: "...They are applied to help correct some problems the bill may create in special circumstances.." again very vague presidential/congressional gobbledegook that when addressed will no doubt open a huge can of worms. I confess, I am a bit puzzled that you would put so much stock in this gobbledegook.
Leigh
10:21 am on Sunday, May 22, 2011
Sean, I think you're mistaken. If we are to get the same care the Pres + Congress get, they wouldn't have needed to exempt themselves from the law.
Bruce, bad assumption on your part. I think the government must be subject to the laws they pass, or they're inclined to pass bad laws. Eating your own dogfood makes you very aware of the problems with it. Just foisting it on other people makes it easy to handwave away any problems they have.
Bruce Goldfarb
10:43 am on Sunday, May 22, 2011
The fact that laws passed by Congress don't apply to Congress, the Supreme Court or the Executive branch of government is not an assumption, Leigh. It's a fact. I'm not assuming anything. You are entitled to your opinion, as Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
Sean Tully
12:37 pm on Sunday, May 22, 2011
I am not an expert on this subject, but I think the reason the government is exempt from the laws it passes is because a sovereign government can not be sued, unless they allow themselves to be (which the U. S. Government does). It stems back to the old English law that "the King can do no wrong". Now, does this mean the government doesn't operate under the laws it passes? Of course not. In fact, it is the government that leads the way on many such issues such fair hiring practices, allowing employees to participate in unions, etc.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:50 am on Sunday, May 22, 2011
And so, my question is who, how, what and when were our worthy congressional folks given "immunization shots?" And then, since our world is changing so fast and our deep pockets are now rather shallow, perhaps the next "immunization shots" should be more focused with that understanding in mind. It is my "worker bee" perception, that we all (meaning not who, but ALL) need to come to the table and take a "hit" together even if it hurts..... Obviously there is no real immunity from what ails our great country and its great people ...and so the old immunity rules need to re-addressed and reconfigured accordingly - ya'll.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:39 pm on Sunday, May 22, 2011
Sean - what exactly was wrong with the "Clinton health care doctrine" from where you stand- anything? And please - if we are going to direct our focus on the ERs in hospitals and the cost to our tax paying citizens - shall we focus not only on what (if you are familiar of course) the costis for millions if illegal immigrant folks to use that avenue consistently and but also to the lack of our ability to recover that cost from them in taxes which, of course, is nil and void. Some time in the near future I will share via my blog what my perspective is on slow, creeping socialism that drains the body and soul of meaning, creativity and spirit in Orwellian fashion and before we know it - we are State drones forever more. Yikes!!!
Sean Tully
1:10 pm on Sunday, May 22, 2011
Lorna, as a first step towards real health care reform, there was nothing wrong with the Clinton plan. I am sure it had its flaws just as the Obama plan does. But we are talking about first steps. Unfortunatly for Clinton, he couldn't get the nation to take that step. Obama, on the other hand, will go down in history for signing the bill.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:15 pm on Sunday, May 22, 2011
First and foremost - did you "read" the Clinton plan? Secondly, have you "read" the so-called Obama plan? If not, don't worry you are in plenty of good company even with the President!! Scary isn't it? As for Obama going down in history for signing the bill - yes he will and he will go down in history for far more than that - guaranteed before this dusty march is over. However, I don't think down the Actually, as you well know, it was the "like-minded thinkers in Congress that helped write it and vigorously "pushed" it through also without even reading it and admitted not doing so --YIKES!!! I am not sure about the "wow" factor in a Harvard education these days. Actually, I think they are overstepping their bounds and the next election results may actually shock the White House Administration with votes coming in from young, old and in between specifically focused on getting our country back on track and "cleaning house" if you will. I perceive that trying vigorously to silence the people of our great country by intimidation will backfire and for our sake, I hope it does.
And finally, your thoughts regarding "Mr. Soros" and any role you think he might be playing in the thick of things.
Sean Tully
10:35 am on Monday, May 23, 2011
I love the GOP myth that every bill signed by a president must fit on a post card. I know nothing about Mr. Soros except he is very rich and is apparently a bogeyman for the GOP.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
5:20 pm on Sunday, May 22, 2011
Good Grief! For get the fifth sentence in my above submitted response. Must have had a brain cloud moment. :)
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:15 am on Monday, May 23, 2011
Sorry darling, the "post card" reference is perhaps meant to insult one's intelligence. Too bad. Not a game I am interested in playing.
Sean Tully
9:55 pm on Monday, May 23, 2011
Lorna, I am not trying to insult anyone's intelligence. The "post card" reference is straight from the GOP playbook:
"Senator Shelby: Flat Tax Could Mean a Tax Return the Size of a Postcard."
http://heraldnewsmedia.com/content/?p=2012
"Nineteen hundred pages," said [Sean] Hannity. "That — if you can't put this down in 30 pages or less, it proves that this is a complicated, you know, bunch of bureaucratic garbage."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-5463699-503544.html
The fact is that law is complicated and big acts are very complicated and may take many pages to write. The GOP knows this, but they play to the Fox News crowd who obviously doesn't.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:18 am on Monday, May 23, 2011
Oh shucks, one more note before I go, you sidestepped the need for "reading" a document/contract/etc. before signing. Just basics, don't cha think?
Sean Tully
9:57 pm on Monday, May 23, 2011
Lorna, I don't read any bills that come out of Congress. I elect representatives to handle that. I trust the people I elect. If I don't, I don't vote for them again.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:49 pm on Monday, May 23, 2011
Can we take this back to the "NEED TO READ BEFORE SIGNING" - Documents/bills/laws- so very basic. Postage stamp size has absolutely nothing to do with the stark reality that those folks not only didn't read the document, but even laughingly bragged that they did not do so. Enough already!!! And, stop with the Fox/Tea Party garbaage- let us stick to the point on the table - not reading before signing any document coming to the table of the Congress and/or President with no desire to explain the depth and breadth of it's content - is stark negligence exacted upon the trust and faith of our people and our country. Then when citizens rightfully begin to question and raise concerns - they are met with vicious name calling and finger pointing to intimidate and quell their voices . Enough already!!!
Lorna D. Rudnikas
11:55 pm on Monday, May 23, 2011
Well darling - in direct response to "...Lorna, I don't read any bills that come out of Congress. I elect representatives to handle that. I trust the people I elect. If I don't, I don't vote for them again." This is exactly what the people are so enraged about. They feel very much as you do - So I guess there is going to be a lot of "not voting for them" on your part in 2012!!! Good grief I hope your action of not voting for the darlings in t he future is not misconstrued as you possibly being a member of the Tea Party!! Yikes!!! :)
Sean Tully
12:13 am on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Lorna, I'd bet 99.9% of the population doesn't read the bills moving through Congress. You may, but I don't. And, I said that if I don't trust my representatives, I would not vote for them again. But, I do trust them. I'll be voting for Obama and Sarbanes. No questions asked.
Lorna D. Rudnikas
12:27 am on Tuesday, May 24, 2011
Congratulations darling! Your faith and trust is admirable - no doubt about it. As for the 99.9% of the population not reading the bills - I specifically have pointed to the President and Congress not reading them-and I strongly consider that to be a tragedy. Congress/President (apples) and population(oranges)- as the old saying goes - please let us not mix apples and oranges.